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Schneider v Republic Theatres Darwin Pty Ltd

[2017] FWC 610 Fair Work Commission 2017-01-01
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Applicant: Kimiko Schneider
Respondent: Republic Theatres Darwin Pty Ltd T/A CMAX Cinema

Ratio

The FWC granted permission for the respondent employer to be represented by a lawyer under s.596(2) of the Fair Work Act 2009, on grounds that the Managing Director could not effectively represent the employer due to post-traumatic stress disorder diagnosed from a 2012 workplace death, and because legal representation would enable more efficient proceedings by reducing emotionality arising from personal relationships between the parties.

Outcome

Resolved other

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Key facts · 7

  • Ms Schneider applied for unfair dismissal under s.394 of the Fair Work Act 2009
  • Ms Schneider asserted she was not given any reason for dismissal and attributed it to her husband selling his business share to Mr Todd
  • The respondent asserted termination was a case of genuine redundancy
  • Mr Todd is the Managing Director of CMAX Cinema and would be the logical in-house representative
  • Mr Todd has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) resulting from a workplace death in 2012
  • A medical report dated 17 January 2017 indicated Mr Todd could suffer further worsening of his condition if required to represent himself
  • Ms Schneider has limited legal experience, English is her second language, and she has difficulty understanding legal proceedings

Factors

For
  • Mr Todd is the logical in-house representative as Managing Director
  • Medical evidence (report dated 17 January 2017) establishes PTSD diagnosis from 2012 workplace death
  • Medical report indicates potential adverse health effect if Mr Todd required to represent himself
  • Complex personal relationships between parties (Mr Todd, Ms Schneider, and her husband) would create risk of emotionality affecting proceedings
  • External legal expertise would enable evidence to be presented on a less emotive basis
  • Legal representation would enable more efficient conduct of the matter
Against
  • Ms Schneider lacks legal experience and is unrepresented
  • English is Ms Schneider's second language with difficulty understanding legal proceedings
  • Ms Schneider raised concerns about potential unfairness from respondent having legal representation
  • Ms Schneider asserted the matter does not involve difficult points of law
  • Ms Schneider understood someone else from the business could represent the respondent

Legislation referenced

  • Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) s.394
  • Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) s.596(2)

Concept tags · 5

[P]Unfair dismissal (federal) [P]Leave for legal representation [S]Genuine redundancy [S]Small business employer [M]Procedural fairness at dismissal stage

Principles · 1

articulates para 10
Where an employer's Managing Director would be the logical in-house representative but medical evidence establishes that representing the employer could have an adverse effect on their health, the requirements of s.596(2)(b) (inability to represent effectively) are satisfied and permission for legal representation should be granted.
Test: s.596(2)(b) fairness test
Archived text (1248 words)
Schneider v Republic Theatres Darwin Pty Ltd [2017] FWC 610 (31 January 2017) [2017] FWC 610 FAIR WORK COMMISSION DECISION Fair Work Act 2009 s.394 —Unfair dismissal Kimiko Schneider v Republic Theatres Darwin Pty Ltd T/A CMAX Cinema (U2016/14404) SENIOR DEPUTY PRESIDENT O’CALLAGHAN ADELAIDE, 30 JANUARY 2017 Permission to be represented by a ‘lawyer or paid agent’ pursuant to s.596 of the Fair Work Act 2009 . [1] Ms Schneider has lodged an application pursuant to s.394 of the Fair Work Act 2009 (the FW Act) with respect to the termination of her employment with Republic Theatres Darwin Pty Ltd T/A CMAX Cinema (CMAX Cinema). This application is listed for a determinative conference on 17 February 2017. This decision deals specifically with the issue of representation. [2] In directions issued on 13 January 2017 I advised: “[2] In the event that either party seeks to be represented by a lawyer or paid agent, a brief submission detailing the basis of that request is to be provided to the Commission and to the other party by close of business 23 January 2017. Any opposition to such a request is to be set out in a brief submission which is to be provided to the Commission and to the first party by close of business 30 January 2017. In that event, and in that event only, a decision dealing with the disputed issue of representation will be provided as soon as possible after 30 January 2017. I have attached a copy of s.596(2) of the FW Act which deals with the issue of representation.” [3] I have subsequently received submissions in support of a grant of representation and a submission in response from Ms Schneider. In considering this issue I have taken into account both the application and the employer’s response to that application (the Form F3). [4] Section 596(2) states: “596 Representation by lawyers and paid agents …. (2) The FWC may grant permission for a person to be represented by a lawyer or paid agent in a matter before the FWC only if: (a) it would enable the matter to be dealt with more efficiently, taking into account the complexity of the matter; or (b) it would be unfair not to allow the person to be represented because the person is unable to represent himself, herself or itself effectively; or (c) it would be unfair not to allow the person to be represented taking into account fairness between the person and other persons in the same matter. Note: Circumstances in which the FWC might grant permission for a person to be represented by a lawyer or paid agent include the following: (a) where a person is from a non-English speaking background or has difficulty reading or writing; (b) where a small business is a party to a matter and has no specialist human resources staff while the other party is represented by an officer or employee of an industrial association or another person with experience in workplace relations advocacy.” [5] In considering the request for a grant of permission made by Ms Bradbrook, of counsel, I have particularly noted the following information. In her application, Ms Schneider asserts that she was not given any reason for her dismissal and she attributed her dismissal because her husband was selling his share of the business to Mr Todd of CMAX Cinema and Mr Todd no longer wished to have her as an employee. [6] In its response to the application CMAX Cinema asserted that the termination of Ms Schneider’s employment was a case of genuine redundancy. [7] Ms Bradbrook asserts that permission for representation should be granted pursuant to s.596(2)(b) because CMAX Cinema could only be represented on an in-house basis, by Mr Todd, as its Managing Director. Further, that Mr Todd has been diagnosed with a post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of a workplace death in 2012. Mr Todd relies on medication and his doctor has provided a medical report, dated 17 January 2017 which indicates that he could suffer a further worsening of his condition if he was required to represent himself in this matter. A copy of that report has been provided to me. [8] Presumably, in terms of s.596(2)(a), Ms Bradbrook submitted that her involvement would enable the matter to proceed more efficiently. [9] In response, Ms Schneider asked that I take into account her lack of legal experience and her unrepresented position. She advised that English was her second language and that she had difficulty understanding what Ms Bradbrook was saying. Ms Schneider asserted that the matter did not involve any difficult points of law, that she had not seen a medical report but was aware that Mr Todd was currently running his business and understood that someone else from that business could represent the respondent. Findings [10] I have considered the extent to which a grant of representation should be issued on the basis that Mr Todd is unable to represent CMAX Cinema effectively. I am satisfied that, as the Managing Director of a relatively small business, Mr Todd would be the logical person to represent his business unless permission for legal representation is granted, and that the medical evidence before me establishes that this could have an adverse effect on his health. Consequently, I am satisfied that the requirements of s.596(2)(b) are satisfied in this instance such that permission for representation should be granted to Ms Bradbrook. I am also satisfied that a grant of permission pursuant to s.596(2)(b) would enable the matter to be dealt with more efficiently, because of the complex relationship between Mr Todd, Ms Schneider and, it seems, her husband. In this respect I have concluded that external legal expertise would enable the CMAX Cinema evidence to be presented on a less emotive basis. I consider there is a substantial risk that apparent personal animosities will impact on the determination of this matter and these are best reduced by the involvement of an external legal resource. Accordingly, I have determined that permission for representation by a lawyer should be granted. [11] Ms Schneider’s concern that representation of CMAX Cinema by a lawyer would represent an unfairness to her appears to go to s.596(2)(c). In this respect it is significant to note that s.596(2)(c) is phrased in the negative. This provision does not represent a basis upon which, in these circumstances, and having concluded that the requirements of s.596(2)(a) and (b) are met, I should refuse to grant permission for representation of CMAX Cinema by a lawyer. This section may then provide a basis upon which I should found a grant of permission for Ms Schneider to be represented by a lawyer should she so wish. Whilst not pertinent to this issue, I am not persuaded that Ms Schneider would be any less likely to understand Ms Bradbrook than she would Mr Todd. If Ms Schneider seeks that the Commission should arrange an interpreter, for the conference on 17 February 2017, she should make a request to this effect to my office at least one week before that conference. Notwithstanding this, Ms Schneider should be aware that, if she does not understand any of the conference proceedings, she can seek clarification about those matters in the course of the conference. [12] For the reasons set out in this decision, permission for representation of CMAX Cinema by a lawyer is granted pursuant to s.596(2)(a) and, most significantly, (b). Printed by authority of the Commonwealth Government Printer <Price code A, PR589798>